{"id":15725,"date":"2023-11-15T02:00:25","date_gmt":"2023-11-15T10:00:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/softwareengineeringdaily.com\/?p=15725"},"modified":"2023-11-16T16:52:49","modified_gmt":"2023-11-17T00:52:49","slug":"figma-dev-mode-with-marcel-weekes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/softwareengineeringdaily.com\/2023\/11\/15\/figma-dev-mode-with-marcel-weekes\/","title":{"rendered":"Figma Dev Mode with Marcel Weekes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/softwareengineeringdaily.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/max.png\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"15643\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/softwareengineeringdaily.com\/2023\/11\/07\/temporal-with-max-fateev\/max\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/softwareengineeringdaily.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/max.png?fit=218%2C258&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"218,258\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"max\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/softwareengineeringdaily.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/max.png?fit=218%2C258&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/softwareengineeringdaily.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/max.png?fit=218%2C258&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-full wp-image-15643 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/softwareengineeringdaily.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/Marcel-Weekes-1.png?resize=218%2C258\" alt=\"\" width=\"218\" height=\"258\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div>\n<p>One of the key challenges that teams encounter is how to smoothly collaborate on converting a design into code. For example, if a designer designs a web component, how can it be most efficiently implemented by a developer? What happens if the designer needs to adjust the design and communicate this change to the developer? These sorts of issues can often lead to inefficiencies and frustrations on a team.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.figma.com\">Figma<\/a> recently announced <a href=\"https:\/\/www.figma.com\/dev-mode\">Dev Mode<\/a> which aims to smooth design and developer collaboration. The idea is to tie the visual language of designers to the actual component implementation of the developer.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/marcelweekes\">Marcel Weekes<\/a> is VP of Product Engineering at Figma, and before that he spent 6 years at Slack. Marcel joins the show today to talk about Dev Mode, how it will boost collaboration between designers and devs, and the new Figma VS Code plugin that brings design into the IDE. Marcel also talks about the concept of the \u201cnew manager death spiral\u201d, and how individual contributors, or ICs, can smoothly transition to management roles.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JoshuaKGoldberg\">Josh Goldberg<\/a> is an independent full time open source developer in the TypeScript ecosystem. He works on projects that help developers write better TypeScript more easily, most notably on typescript-eslint: the tooling that enables ESLint and Prettier to run on TypeScript code. Josh regularly contributes to open source projects in the ecosystem such as ESLint and TypeScript.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">Josh is a Microsoft MVP for developer technologies and the author of the acclaimed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.learningtypescript.com\/\">Learning TypeScript<\/a> (O\u2019Reilly), a cherished resource for any developer seeking to learn TypeScript without any prior experience outside of JavaScript. Josh regularly presents talks and workshops at bootcamps, conferences, and meetups to share knowledge on TypeScript, static analysis, open source, and general frontend and web development.<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>You can find Josh on: <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/joshuakgoldberg.com\">Bluesky<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/fosstodon.org\/@JoshuaKGoldberg\">Fosstodon<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JoshuaKGoldberg\">Twitter<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.twitch.tv\/joshuakgoldberg\/\">Twitch<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@JoshuaKGoldberg\">YouTube<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/joshuakgoldberg.com\/\">joshuakgoldberg.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/softwareengineeringdaily.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/SED1593-Figma-Dev-Mode-transcript.txt\">Please click here to see the transcript for this episode.<\/a><\/div>\n<div>Sponsorship inquiries: sponsor@softwareengineeringdaily.com<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the key challenges that teams encounter is how to smoothly collaborate on converting a design into code. 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